It conjuncts the ascendant and squares my mc. On top of that all my partners had/have their Neptune on/in my 4th house. Does it matter that his moon and sun are in Pisces? Much love and thankfulness for whatever enlightenment you can afford. Am I a sexual trophy or do we have a kudalini chemistry? in this particular case, in the sign of gemini ? The angle person may feel emotionally oppressed and burdened by the relationship, and grow tired of carrying someone else’s Saturn issues as well as their own. -my lilith conjuncts both his NN and his IC 2° (because he has his NN/NS axis and his MC/IC axis very close to each other 4°) I have felt as though I am in this tug of war constantly especially since I experience the death of my baby (approx 20 years ago – I am 47 now) which has seen me delve into addiction issues at ‘home’ versus appearing to have together, confident and sparkling out there in the world and work (I literally crumble into a nothingness once I get home). What about having Neptune conjunct the midheaven in synastry? My IC/DC axis is also square his NN/SN axis. When the Venus in one chart forms an aspect to another person’s Jupiter. At that point I feel as though I focussed on the MC and the IC got foggy but I don’t know where to start in dealing with this dilemna. You say our internal power, our ‘moxie’ so to speak – is in our 4th house. It may be just too much evolution for some. If you stimulate my IC, you become part of my psychological landscape. If someone’s Saturn falls in my 10th house, they may cause me to relive these early dynamics. There is an article about that contact on this site. We can lose our sense of inner security and rootedness because of a loss in our home situation, leaving us to feel perpetually precarious. If a person’s Moon falls into my 10th house, they will be a midwife to my ambitions, and support my efforts to build something for myself (or us). Although, if the Venus person doesn’t reciprocate the same feelings, Pluto tends to take it up a notch until the desired response is received. Standards are vital. Being with a woman who is strong in his Venus element, or who makes close sextiles to his Venus makes the relationship much easier, and increases sexual desire and compatibility. This is an indicator of karmic, transformative, obsessive love. Mercury here learns best through the inspiration of discussion and debate, and they like to talk […], Skymates: Love, Sex and Evolutionary Astrology, Venus-Pluto Synastry: Cause I Ain’t Gonna Let You Go, An Astrological Analogy: Next Installment. This is borne out by a number of recent research studies. As Kilroy J. Oldster says, “We cannot anticipate in advance how anyone will respond when they first rub elbows with Eros’ malady of passion and madness. (How they do this depends on their own lunar aspects. -his lilith opposed my asc (-1°) or , conjuncts my desc, if you prefer Aaww…. Required fields are marked *, Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. Moon square Saturn might be driven. I have a question. question: what is the meaning of synastry where north node conjuncts ic- south node con. Yet all Pluto interactions ignite a striking fascination or uneasy love obsession with all involved. Take care . Also, the rising composite sign is in Auarius, and the north node in Taurus conjunct the IC or 4th house angle. It’s indestructible and god-given, a blazing light in the depths of our awareness. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000 These relationships often intensify my feelings of insecurity. I think they are very insightful and systematic.I have o question and very worried about this. This week we’ll wrap up our discussion on the MC/IC and its part in synastry. Saturn will expect me to get a hold of myself and make a success of myself and our partnership, and will bring discipline to my life if it is chaotic. How is the ruling planet aspected? Without sufficient awareness, the early patterns may be repeated. The attachment may unconsciously be one of parent/mentor, and a lack of equality in the relationship may not go noticed until it is too late. It’s a quieter aspect. A big hug and congratulations on the article. For example, say I have Aries rising and Mars in the first house. Your articles are eloquently written and extremely insightful. What you do for me, how I feel in your presence, becomes more important than the give and take of actual relationship, where both partners have equal roles. These people will like to cocoon, and may not need a lot of stimulation from the outside world. Saturn may be fine in the beginning of the relationship, but after a time the angle person may find themselves increasingly unable to express their emotions in any kind of honest or spontaneous way. Great website and awesome article! I may feel I’m expected to live up to impossible standards. What planet does it rule, and where is this planet. You need to regain your strength in your sense of self–not as part of a group, or in comparison to others. It’s really an odd thing to watch this little venus of mine fixed at the bottom of the chart at the IC point IV, and throwing squares-darts at both sides of the other person crucial points, just as if she wanted to prevent him from living his own destiny, by interfering in the middle. Saturn on the IC is prone to taking on the sadness and responsibilities felt from the mother in childhood, and may particularly absorb mother issues with partners. Uranus often points to a place where something has been violently torn from us, and on either angle it has to do with an emotional break, a hole in the emotional landscape, which must be factored into the synastry. Both seek more sensuality because love, quite frankly, is just not enough. We become one (for a while). The other person stretches us and teaches us where we need to go. I have done very well with Jupiter on my MC but have nothing to show for it and continue to struggle with my IC which I seem to fear. The more the MC is influenced, the more intimacy can erode. With heavy MC contacts, someone needs to keep a constant watch on the emotional level of the partnership. This is especially true with Saturn contacts to this angle. I suspect that there are other issues at work here. It seems as though there are some very crucial issues around your MC/IC, and I hesitate to say anything without examining the entire chart, including house rulerships. I have synastry with someone whose natal saturn conjunct their IC is conjunct my moon in the 10th… so my moon is on their IC and their saturn in my tenth… switching roles. -in my native chart, I’ve got venus conjunct jupiter conjunct IC , in virgo , (6°19, 10°49,6°15) and HIS VERTEX is 10°19 Virgo =conjuncts the three of mine at the same time ! Moon square Pluto might be manipulative. I got married with another, I love him, have children etc, but I never forgot this other guy . They will be in touch with what I need to achieve, possibly understanding this aspect of myself better than I do. Our MCs are all about what we want people to see, how we want to be known. We reach the point of power in the IC when we come to a place where we know, absolutely, that we have something of worth that no one can take away from us. Not quite like Jupiter/Moon, which has tremendous buoyancy and joy to it. Pluto can have a compulsive attraction to Venus, but sometimes this is a repressive influence and Venus may feel coerced and intimidated into being loving and affectionate. My contact with you allows me to take my place in the world, to feel as if I (we) belong. As my venus RKNS is conjunct my IC,and his vertex conjuncts my venus, the big thing is that his vertex-antivertex axis is conjunct to my MC/Dc axis. If your planets load my MC and 10th house, our relationship may inspire me to social service (in a best case scenario) or, at worst, it may be all about external things, neglecting my inner landscape. This, in turn, enhances the Moon person’s feelings of security. Moon/IC contacts are usually good for establishing a home together. To all: I think that the importance of every angle, like any planet or point, really depends on the individual. I may feel that the Saturn person has the upper hand in the relationship, which is all right if I’m inclined that way but not so right if I’m a naturally rebellious type. is it a very bad aspect. I am unclear where my internal ‘power’ lies. This synastry is really a strange one, as the single-10minutes-meeting-talking we shared was a strange one. Challenges to the MC/IC ask us whether we are living authentically, or whether our lives are dictated to us by expectations of family, society at large, or unconscious psychological patterns. If your Moon conjuncts my IC, or falls in my fourth house, it relates to having a Moon/Moon conjunction. seems very fated, dont you think ? Saturn in the 10th, in its natural house, is often fiercely ambitious, and is concerned with producing something lasting, and of quality, whatever it might be. Depending on aspects to the Moon, this can be blissful, or it can quickly turn problematic as the Moon issues that arise will affect both partners profoundly, and may disturb the home life directly. Synastry: Venus – Jupiter Aspects Between Two Charts. The relationship puts an emphasis on my values, security, respect, and integrity, and, depending on aspects, I may feel repressed by this. Any thoughts? Neptune/IC causes me to feel as if the ground is dissolving beneath my feet. Not going into analysis of personal charts and whole synastry chart, I would really like to know your thouhts on the first glimps. In its purest manifestation, romantic love guarantees to rip us asunder, because we are unwittingly dispossessed of our precious sense of self-control.”. He will be better off if he is allowed to express his genuine, unique self, and not conform to other people’s expectations. Jupiter on the MC wants to be known as someone wise and mature, a teacher or philosopher, or at least someone jovial and larger than life. BML is not an easy energy to interpret. As is commonly the case, Pluto doesn’t take rejection lightly and refusing his advances only creates resentment; feelings of anger, jealousy, possessiveness, which surface in the relationship and often take over it. It’s impossible to interpret the aspect without the whole chart. I’ve found Neptune in either house particularly problematic.
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